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Re: Touchscreen updates

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:22 pm
by Ben88
Is the born really that bad?

I’ve got a v2 in quasar grey on order and the born seems so problematic and I’m having second thoughts after reading this forum lol

Re: Touchscreen updates

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:27 am
by Deleted User 490
I can only speak from personal experience, the issues are relatively minor, but collectively they add up to being quite irritating for a car that I had high expectations for. They aren’t apparent every time I use the car or if I’m not using functionality that makes them happen, so it probably comes over as worse than the reality is. I spend more time enjoying the way it drives and looks than being irritated.

That said if the issues aren’t resolved I will have a decision to make. Ioniq 5, EV6 or Model Y’s are great cars by all accounts, but I see them in a car park I use frequently and they look somewhat shoe-horned into their spaces in the same way as many SUVs do, that could be a bigger irritation given I use the car in urban settings as well as the open road!

Re: Touchscreen updates

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:36 am
by Daveion
Ben88 wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:22 pm Is the born really that bad?

I’ve got a v2 in quasar grey on order and the born seems so problematic and I’m having second thoughts after reading this forum lol
It can be off putting. However, its a car which is a great deal more than an electronic tablet that sits in the middle of the dash. I have had my car since June and an ID3 before it. I could do without the need to keep re-adjusting settings but the car overall more than makes up for those shortcomings which I believe will be fixed along the way.

Re: Touchscreen updates

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:42 am
by Deleted User 614
Hey all
I can live with it for now. But sorry, it's gone far sooner than planned. I too am looking around and pretty sure I have decided on an entirely different make (and not an EV either).
It's a year old in October, and I will change it then.

One day, I may come back to EV's, but it's not the future yet.

Re: Touchscreen updates

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:13 pm
by Deleted User 490
These issues aren’t EV related, so guess you’re not buying into EVs generally yet?

Re: Touchscreen updates

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:19 pm
by Deleted User 614
Nope. Sorry, the whole EV thing has been mis-sold. I am lucky that (at the moment), I don't need to use public chargers. But, they are more expensive to use than petrol now.

We all know the initial range lies. Even so, when you collect the car and THEN they tell you to use it between 20% and 80% charge as much as you can, it just add insult to injury.

There are absolutely no financial benefits that I can see to go electric at the moment. No home charger purchase help, no dealer discounts etc

I'll have a look at where EV's are in 5 years after this toe dip and re-assess.

Re: Touchscreen updates

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:40 pm
by Daveion
Rach1987 wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:19 pm Nope. Sorry, the whole EV thing has been mis-sold. I am lucky that (at the moment), I don't need to use public chargers. But, they are more expensive to use than petrol now.

We all know the initial range lies. Even so, when you collect the car and THEN they tell you to use it between 20% and 80% charge as much as you can, it just add insult to injury.

There are absolutely no financial benefits that I can see to go electric at the moment. No home charger purchase help, no dealer discounts etc

I'll have a look at where EV's are in 5 years after this toe dip and re-assess.
The financial package has never really made good sense, it's the environmental benefits that have to sell the cars with people turning from ICE power cars for that reason alone.

Re: Touchscreen updates

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:13 pm
by Deleted User 490
The cost of entry is high, the cost of the batteries is difficult to absorb, although those that can get into an EV via salary sacrifice with low BIK rates are laughing. We didn’t get any of that but running cost savings are significant. Our smart tariff powers 90% of the miles our EVs do at 10-15% the cost per mile of petrol, home charger paid for itself. There’s still zero road tax, zero London congestion charge and in our council zero car parking charges. The traditional dealer discounting model seems to be going away, Cupra don’t do it now, Tesla never have, but EV list prices will surely come down relatively (e.g. Tesla). Drove past a VW dealer earlier, 22 plate ID3s were 26-27k, they would have been 34-35k last sep/oct.

Five years is a long time, glad to be part of it now. Even on a 58kWh Born, day to day using between using 20-80% of the battery SoC is of no concern, on longer trips we need to stop as often as the car (faster charging in winter would be nice). Agreed the environmental benefits are key, there are a lot of myths being peddled about EVs. Our tariff is green and zero tailpipe emissions is paying back the impact of the battery manufacture, but obviously there’s more work needed.

Re: Touchscreen updates

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:19 pm
by TheBornIDentity
Rach1987 wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:19 pm Nope. Sorry, the whole EV thing has been mis-sold. I am lucky that (at the moment), I don't need to use public chargers. But, they are more expensive to use than petrol now.

We all know the initial range lies. Even so, when you collect the car and THEN they tell you to use it between 20% and 80% charge as much as you can, it just add insult to injury.

There are absolutely no financial benefits that I can see to go electric at the moment. No home charger purchase help, no dealer discounts etc

I'll have a look at where EV's are in 5 years after this toe dip and re-assess.
There is absolutely no way I’m going back to petrol. Last time I drove one it was like driving a steam train in comparison. It was brand new and only had 100 miles on the clock too.

If they don’t sort the software I’ll just have to find another EV I like and can afford, probably a Polstar 2 or Kia Niro EV.

The car was expensive to buy but cheap as chips to run. Nearly a year into EV ownership and I’ve spent £220 on home charging to do around 11k miles. Probably another £50 - £100 on rapids.

I’ve also bought a big enough stake in the Ripple energy Kirk Hill wind farm to cover all my electricity use so future energy prices aren’t a worry. EV’s definitely make financial sense for me.

Re: Touchscreen updates

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:21 pm
by Ben88
Daveion wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:36 am
Ben88 wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:22 pm Is the born really that bad?

I’ve got a v2 in quasar grey on order and the born seems so problematic and I’m having second thoughts after reading this forum lol
It can be off putting. However, its a car which is a great deal more than an electronic tablet that sits in the middle of the dash. I have had my car since June and an ID3 before it. I could do without the need to keep re-adjusting settings but the car overall more than makes up for those shortcomings which I believe will be fixed along the way.
Hopefully cupra do eventually fixes these issues!
What settings do you need to re-adjust? Sounds like a pain in the backside!