Winter wheels

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Ghiribizzo
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Post by Ghiribizzo » Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:30 pm

Has anyone bought a set of wheels for putting winter tyres on?
I’m not discussing ‘tyre’ choice as that just instantly turns like a “which oil?” thread on M/C forums. :D

With my Zoes I got a brand new set of Russian made steelies. Of course, one Zoe had 4 bolts and the other 5…
Also these days I’m not going to be buying new Russian made steel wheels.

18” instead of 19” would allow cheaper tyres but I’ve called two dealers and Parts guys have no clue if 18”wheels that’d fit a V1 (or ID3) would fit a V2 Boost.

Anyone?

Ghiribizzo
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Post by Ghiribizzo » Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:33 pm

*cos Boost cars have larger discs/caliper spacing.

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Post by monkeyhanger » Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:38 pm

Ghiribizzo wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:33 pm
*cos Boost cars have larger discs/caliper spacing.
Marginally bigger. They'd probably fit on an e-boost, but you'd need to check to be sure. By sight alone, you'd not notice the difference. The calipers/discs on our e-boost borns are only just bigger than the ones on our old ID3s (same as non e-boost Borns.

I think all of the Russian steel is sat in Ukraine right now, either wrecked, or in Ukrainian army ownership.
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Elea4
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Post by Elea4 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:46 am

What are the rules like in the UK for putting on rims that aren't specifically listed in the CoC?

It's crazy strict here in Germany, to the point that anyone with a 77kwh e-boost only has a a small handful of options - and anything not in the CoC has to be individually approved by the manufacturer and/or local TÜV workshops.

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Post by alanjs » Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:05 am

Elea4 wrote:
Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:46 am
What are the rules like in the UK for putting on rims that aren't specifically listed in the CoC?

It's crazy strict here in Germany, to the point that anyone with a 77kwh e-boost only has a a small handful of options - and anything not in the CoC has to be individually approved by the manufacturer and/or local TÜV workshops.
I love it when people use acronyms without stating the actual term. To a photographer like me, CoC means "Circle of Confusion" which relates to depth of field (DoF)
And is TUV short for Tuvalu?
Oh well, each to their own!
:D
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Post by monkeyhanger » Sun Nov 20, 2022 11:58 am

CoC = Certificate of conformance. TUV is a German/Austrian set of testing/compliance standards e.g. you can get TUV approval on a diesel car tuning box if it has been demonstrated that the extra performance doesn't have a detrimental effect on reliability/failure rate.
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Post by monkeyhanger » Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:05 pm

Back to the wheel question. I had a quick look at my E-boost's wheels. I didn't get my tape measure out, but there looks to be about 20mm between the caliper and inner wheel rim. With that in mind, an 18" wheel with the right offset should do for an e-boost winter wheel, but a 17" wheel wouldn't.
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Post by Ghiribizzo » Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:18 pm

Image@monkeyhanger - yes it’s disappointing when the dealers can’t say yes or no and have no interest in finding out.
I don’t want to buy a set of used wheels only to find that they don’t fit.
Another consideration I’ve not bothered to look at - because of the uncertainty of 18” wheels is how to adjust Speedometer/Odometer calculations with 18” rather than 19”.
I could do that easily in the Zoe with 16/17” wheels.

So the easiest solution without ‘might do could do should do’ is to get a set of 19’s in the right spec. and a set of winter tyres.
Kinda costly. And yes, we do get snow here..

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Post by Elea4 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:31 pm

alanjs wrote:
Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:05 am
Elea4 wrote:
Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:46 am
What are the rules like in the UK for putting on rims that aren't specifically listed in the CoC?

It's crazy strict here in Germany, to the point that anyone with a 77kwh e-boost only has a a small handful of options - and anything not in the CoC has to be individually approved by the manufacturer and/or local TÜV workshops.
I love it when people use acronyms without stating the actual term. To a photographer like me, CoC means "Circle of Confusion" which relates to depth of field (DoF)
And is TUV short for Tuvalu?
Oh well, each to their own!
:D
Better buckle up then: the amount of EV-related acronyms is even more alarming :D

SoC, SoH, TPA, ACC, CCS, CHAdeMO, V2H, V2V, Car2X, aero, etc. etc.

(State of Charge, State of Health, Trained Park Assist, Automatic Cruise Control, Combined Charging System, Charge de Move, Vehicle to Home charging, Vehicle to Vehicle charging, car-to-car WLAN communication, aerodynamic wheels optimized for EV's).

Which brings me back to winter rims... here's a very short list of some compatible 18" ones and their respective weights - but I can't say which can accommodate the calipers on the e-boost models:

Alutec Monstr 9,8kg
Borbet Y 10,5kg
Borbet LX18 10,28kg
R3 R3H01 10,8kg
CMS Cyclone 11kg - Aero (aka Born's standard rims)
Dezent TZ 11,48kg
ID.3 East Derry 11,7kg
RC Design RC 34 11,8kg
ID.3 Loen 12,7kg
CMS 21 15kg - Aero

(fwiw no 18" rims are permitted on an e-boost Born in Germany)

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Post by un_born » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:10 am

CoC means certificate of conformity. It's full title is European certificate of conformity. It's a worldwide accepted document that shows the Cars specs and emissions as it left the factory.

In regards to the UK, the UK is one of the most lax countries in the world when it comes to car modifications.

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